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Cheap electric vehicles for third world countries

Electric cars are success in western countries, but how about third world countries? The most used vehicle in third world countries is motorcycle, not car. And motorcycles pollute. For example in India there is huge amount of motorcycles, and in other asian countries too, through asia from China to Indonesia motorcycle seems to be the the favoured vehicle. And in african countries and south america also cheap commuter motorcycles are popular.
Motorcycles are not particularly fuel efficient, and they pollute too.
What is needed is cheap electric motorcycles for third world countries. Or other electric vehicles, three or four wheeled, that are as cheap as those gasoline motorcycles sold in third world countries.
To prevent air pollution and decrease fuel consumption. Air pollution is a problem in big cities of third world countries.
To resolve air pollution / climate change / fuel consumption (oil peak has passed) problems industrial countries have succesfully introduced electric cars. But cheaper vehicles than western electric cars are needed in third world countries. Electric rickshaw or “electric tuk tuk” has already been succesfull in third world countries, but electric private transport vehicles are needed (electric tuk tuks are used for working / transporting of things used in work).
There are electric motorcycle manufacturers in India and in China, but they have to compete against established base of gasoline motorcycles.
So some change in law that concern cars and motorcycles must be done that favors electric vehicles so that electric vehicles can be popular.
Cars are used to transport people, but why is needed about 50 000 dollar, over ton weighting steel monster to carry four people from place A to place B? There are simpler and cheaper solutions than modern car to carry people from place A to B. In third world countries those other possibilities must be made popular.
So that electric vehicles have chance in private transport, simplest thing would be simply putting price limit to gasoline vehicles, both motorcycles and cars. If for example all gasoline/diesel vehicles are only allowed to cost 50 000 dollars or more in third world countries, that would make room for electric vehicles below 50 000 dollar price range. That seems radical, but would be simple solution for making electric cars and motorcycles popular in third world countries. Also already used and then sold gasoline/diesel cars and motorcycles and mopeds must have price tag of at least 50 000 dollars so that they can be sold. That will effectively put to end gasoline/diesel vehicle use in third world countries, although rich people there will have opportunity to use gasoline/diesel vehicles. Trucks / lorries that are used in heavy transport are allowed to be diesel or gasoline powered.
Air pollution / climate change / fuel consumption problems in third world countries solved.
But those new electric motorcycles and vehicles that will replace gasoline powered ones must be cheap, those that will replace massive amount of motorcycles in third world countries.
There are electric vehicle consepts like PEBL, ELF, PodRide, Frikar, CityQ, IRIS eTrike. But those are made on small numbers, building them is just cottage industry. Building of those vehicles should be transferred to India or China or some other third world country where they can be mass-manufactured cheaply, or license production made of those vehicles in third world countries, mass manufactured in large numbers cheaply like those cheap gasoline motorcycles. Even Sinclair C5 could be relaunched in third world countries, because it was vehicle that was designed to be as cheap as possible.
Electric vehicles used in third world countries use lead batteries mostly, not lithium batteries.
Also for some reason those new western electric vehicles are for one person only. Modification that allow them to carry two people should be easy, like in recumbent bicycle with two persons where one sits behind another. Motorcycles can carry two persons so electric vehicles should too.
There are also things that fall between electric bicycle and electric motorcycle, those cycles have more powerful electric motors than in typical electric bicycle, but less power than typical electric motorcycle, so they are in-between them. Such electric motorcycles if they are cheap should have success in third world countries.
Electric bikes with three or four wheels, electric chopper bike, electric recumbent bike, fat tire electric bike, electric bike motorcycle combo, high power electric bicycle, fast electric bicycle, those things have many names but they are all in-between electric motorcycle and electric bicycle. Those things can have success in third world countries if production of those vehicles would be in third world countries where they can be made with large amounts and cheaply, or at least license production of them in third world countries. Some electric bicycles are even build to look like gasoline motorcycles, with fake fuel tank etc., so they even look like gasoline motorcycles.
Perhaps also wood can be used as building material for electric vehicles, not only metal. When wood is used in construction, production should be easier and cheaper in third world countries than all-metal designs. But all-metal vehicles can be made too.
Wood is used in making aircrafts up to this day, so wood can be used to make cars and motorcycles perhaps also. Balsa wood, laminated wood (Mosquito airplane in WW2), or even bamboo wood.
Also plastic can be used for building electric vehicles, Sinclair C5 was made of plastic.
Not only electric motorcycles, bicycles or cars can be made, also there is whole lot of different electric vehicles, trikes, quadracycles, electric cycleboards etc. So not only traditional type bicycles or motorcycles or cars with electric powered versions, new kind of vehicles can be build that use electric power. Some of the electric cycleboards have three wheels.
During 1940s and perhaps even 1950s, trucks had wooden cargo beds made of timber. Why cannot modern diesel cargo truck maker build truck with wooden parts? Some truck factory in India or China etc. When wooden parts are used truck should be very cheap. Wooden cargo bed, and instead of metal, panels made of plywood or wood, or even canvas panels (or plastic canvas), in ww2 russian trucks had canvas cover in cabin instead of metal or wood panels in some production runs.
Also when laminated wood is used to make aircrafts even nowdays, laminated wood can be perhaps used for making bicycles, motorcycles or cars with wooden structure. Or balsa wood or bamboo used.
Perhaps electric vehicles can be build using wood or mixed wood-metal construction. If that makes vehicle cheaper. Panels can be made of plywood or just canvas instead of rigid metal or plastic surface (canvas can be plastic canvas). If that makes vehicle cheaper.
If 50 000 dollar or more price is demanded for selling either new or used gasoline/diesel powered vehicles in third world countries, that would open market for mass produced cheap electric vehicles, to counter motorcycle menace of big cities that pollute air in third world countries, particularly asian countries. But gasoline/diesel powered cargo lorries and trucks are allowed to sold below 50 000 dollar price, new and used ones, because those lorries and trucks are used for work. Buyer of lorry or truck must have such work that it needs cargo lorry or truck
There are texts “Forgotten innovations of gasoline engines” and “Modern biofuel / woodgas generator” in Robin Hood Coop Forums netpages.

There are “kit cars”, car bodies build on cheap cars, and then those cars look like Ferrari, Bugatti Veyron or Rolls Royce. Some kit car manufacturers turn that car to electric at the same time as bodywork is changed. So in third word countries electric cars are needed because of big cities air pollution problem, and generally car technology is transforming to electric cars rapidly. Although in third world countries electric vehicles to replace motorcycles are needed most, also electric cars are needed, that are as cheap as possible. Those gasoline powered kit cars have often fiberglass panels (or other plastic will do also), instead of metal.
Why in third world countries have no car makers that can make electric cars that look like Ferrari, Bugatti Veyron or Rolls Royce? If there would be car factories in third world countries that make electric cars, those cars can have bodywork that makes electric car to look like Ferrari, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Bugatti Veyron or Rolls Royce, but at inside those cars are just cheap electric cars, plastic or metal panels, and perhaps lead batteries not lithium. Those cars can have loudspeaker system that plays recorded engine noise of Ferrari, Rolls Royce etc. as car is slowing down or accelerates, so that engine noise played by hidden loudspeakers aimed to outside of the car produce exact replica of engine sound that matches car speed and acceleration, and that fools people to think that those cars really are Rolls Royce or Ferrari etc. although they just are cheaply build electric cars.
Only when there is no smoke coming out from exhaust pipes it can be seen that cars have no combustion engine.
Inside those cars can have interior that resembles real luxus cars, but instead of leather seats they have cheap plastic synthetic leather, and instead of expensive wood paneling inside made of rare and expensive wood species cabin panels inside are wood-looking plastic etc.
Those “kit cars” that are mass manufactured like any ordinary cars are mass produced, electric cars, can have very low price although from the outside and inside they look like Rolls Royce or Ferrari etc. If manufacturing happens in countries like India, China, Brazil, Nigeria etc.
Making cheap electric cars to look like expensive luxus cars makes electric cars attractive to buyers in third world countries, and that will accelerate the sale of electric cars there.
Most of gasoline kit car manufactures make two-seater coupe sport car lookalikes. When car carries only two people, it can be made to be lightweight, particularly electric car that carries only two people, so those two person coupe car lookalikes if they have electric drive, should be easily cheaply build. But there are also kit cars / luxus car lookalikes that have seats for five or four people. In third world lead batteries are favored in electric vehicles, two seat electric car can have lead batteries.
Other posts in Robin Hood Coop forum that are somehow connected to this post are “Hybrid airplane and autogiro combined”, “Using water as fuel”, “Forgotten innovations of gasoline engines” and “Modern biofuel / woodgas generator”.
About lorries, trucks and cars made of wood: perhaps lorries and trucks can be build that have laminated wood cargo beds, laminated wood is strong and light and that s why airplanes are still being build from laminated wood. Laminated wood or other wood structures can perhaps be used in car or truck structural components when car or truck is made to be as cheap as possible, and panels of car or truck can be plywood. Laminated wood is actually plywood also, but this plywood is so strong that for example Mosquito and Hughes Hercules aircrafts were build using similar wood structures. Balsa wood or even bamboo wood are other materials perhaps suitable for super cheap vehicles. Mixed construction of metal and wood or plastic/fiberglass and wood structures can used.
In airplane construction wood is used to build small planes, but those even are not using wood laminates, they just use basic wood, like birch, as structural parts. Wood has about two times tensile strength of aluminum, and only some sophisticated composite materials have better strength to weight ratio than wood. And wood work does not need skilled workers like metalwork needs, any carpenter will do. Laminated sophisticated wood “plywood” structures used earlier in airplane building (during W2) are even better than basic wood as construction material. So if car or truck has partially or completely wooden structure, electric vehicle, it can carry heavy batteries and is probably very cheap to make.
The kit car makers often use one car platform where they put different car bodyworks, so that basic car body can have many different looking bodyworks, car is basically the same but it looks different. Same can be used with electric cars that are made to look like luxus cars, many different looking bodyworks in same car platform. Buyer can then perhaps choose if his electric car looks like Ferrari, Chevrolet Camaro etc., but those cars that are two seaters use different car platform that are four or five seaters. Two seat coupe carries only two people, so electric car is lighter and cheaper than four/five seat car.
If those electric cars are produced using similar mass manufacturing like normal cars are produced, and production is in some third world country or other cheap country, like in China or India, Brazil or Nigeria etc., electric car is very cheap. So then it is attractive to car buyers in third world countries. And if this cheap electric car looks like Ferrari, Bugatti Veyron or Rolls Royce it is even more attractive to buyers there. Buyer can perhaps choose if his/her electric car looks like just ordinary car, or he/she can choose different kit car bodyworks that fit in the same car platform that makes same car to look like some luxus car.

In netpage AZoM com are articles “Plastics that are Stronger than Steel” and “Can wood rival metal hardness?”. If wood based materials are used in construction, those are good candidates for it. Hemp when processed has 2,5 times the strength of steel and this process was used already in the 1940s so it can t be complicated. Henry Ford build a car made of hemp “plastic” already in 1941. Organic plastic in those times was wood or sawdust (or hemp) mixed with some glue/adhesive or resin. When wood was used result was version of plywood (Duramold and other 1940s wooden airplane building materials). From netpage hempfoundation net “Is hemp stronger than steel? How?” Compressive strength of hemp is six times stronger than steel.
Plywood or “hemp plastic” or that new tulip-based material or other organic “plastic” can perhaps be used to build wooden structure cars/trucks or airplanes or ships, return of wooden ships, build cheaply in some third world country, perhaps using modern sails as main propulsion and only small additional diesel engine so it is then age of wooden sailships once again. Build as cheap as possible.
Some kit cars are build that look like old american cars from 1950s / 1960s. At the same time some kit car builders remove gasoline engine and turn car to electric powered. But instead of building kit cars that look like 1950s / 1960s cars old real 1950s / 1960s cars can be rebuild to electric drive. For example Cuba is known source of old american cars. When old car is rebuild to electric drive it can also have others fixes, new paint etc. rebuilding.
Also cheap hot air airships can be build in third world countries that are much cheaper to build than aircrafts and their operating and building costs are so cheap that it makes air travel very cheap in third world countries. Airships made of wood or plywood or other cheap organic material “plastic” that has high strength to weight ratio.