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I would like to start discussion about free internet for development countries. Altough there are things like Googe Zero, people in development countries must still pay subscription line costs for using telephone line. Telephne line costs are high when landlines are used, but mobile telecommunications have operational costs much lower. Still people in developing countries must pay high cost for telephone line. The cost of using internet with its copyrighted material and royalty payments increases costs of using the net. Internet also brings lots of advertising money to teleoperators, also in poor countries, but teleoperators still charge money from line user. However, internet has also full of freeware and public domain material, and internet operators like Spotify who offers copyrighted material for free, and places like openculture.com which is full of public domain things. But telephone line costs prevent poor people in poor countries to use those. When even 4G networks are being build in the most poorest countries of the world, and they have dozens of megabits data rate, if operating cost for one tens of megabits- scale line are so high that subscrition line fee must paid, what about if that capacity is divided to between 20- 100 smaller users, and simultaneysly advertisements that are aided towards one user, are going to 20 -100 line users, so advertisement money generated by teleoperator is increased to 20 - 100 times per typical megabits scale 4G or even 3G channel. If internet access is restricted to copyright payment free public domain and freeware, teleoperator does not have to pay it either. There is a crossing point where teleoperators costs and slower data rate for user / increased money from advertisements meet each other, and teleperator can now have total cost- free internet which is paid by commercials (advertisements, adware, other payments by those who offer material or want to sell something in the internet), so end user in poor countries does not have to pay for internet line. 600 million cell phones and 100- 200 million laptops, tablets on other computers are discarded each year. They cannot be shipped to poor countries because costs of using internet line (telephone line) are so high that it prevents their usage. So those are scrapped wich brings much pollution. If line costs were free, hundreads of millions of pieces of electronics that are discarded and now scrapped can be given to poor people. Also cost of modern electronics is so low (tablet PC at 15 dollars with Allwinner A 13 processor is lowest factory price for large orders in China) that it is not the cost of electronics, it is the cost of telehone / mobile internet line that prevents poor people having internet connection. Also if they had access to internet, these poor people could form “buying pools”, concentrations of net shop users in same geographical area, and make large factory orders together for netshops like alibaba.com that sell cheap things but demants large order of 1000 - 10 000 pieces for single order. Also teleoperator can cut costs restricting the use of free internet to limited number of files and netpages on the net, using “Virtual File System” or other instead of search engine and browser, minimizing search engine and server usage to minimum. Google Zero, Airtel Zero and others are doing it already. Most of worlds teleoperators that have largest numbers of subscribers are state- owned, owned by some rich country like Norway (Telenor/VimpelCom/Grameenphone), United Arab Erimites (Etilasat) or France (Orange, previously France Telecom), and these very rich countries have wholly or partially state- owned teleoperators that operate in almost every poor country in the world. Because they are state owned they are under political decisionmaking of citizens. Also those firms get their money from teleoperations in rich countries, and having telebisnes in poor countries is not very important to them. If there is a way that enables total cost free internet in developing countries and it wont even bring substantial economical losses, what is the reason that these large state- owned firms cannot offer free internet at least poorest of people? These firms are “owned” by citizens of each individual country that have large teleoperator under governmental control, so if people want this cost free internet to come true, it will come true, if people have a will to make this decision and start political process towards total cost free (commercially paid, slow data rate, restricted use) internet in poor countries. In almost every poor country can be found teleoperator which is wholly or partially owned by some rich country. Effect of cost free net connection would be enormous, perhaps greater than other aid projects together, if things like GNUhealth or Ekopedia are integrated to it. But if user wants to use for example normal telephone call or send SMS message, user must pay, and cost free use is restricted to VoIP calls over internet and internet message services. Also free net must be monitored and sensurized, and if it is a closed filesystem it is easy.

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Since no one else answered yet, I like this idea. Just need to get a press release out, send it to refugee org’s and ask if they can redistribute it to get the word out.

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There are plans to launch balloons and satellites in order to offer people free internet connection, partcularly in poor countries. These need large dishes to gather information in every device, so receiving devices are not cheap. If normal internet connection today is not possible to be free because of costs per one channel, altough advertisement money that goes to internet increases exponentially each year. When data rates are drastically lowered per customer in 3G and 4G networks that means for 20 - 2 megabits/sec channel teleoperator gets advertisement money only for one customer, but if data rate is lowered to one hundreadth, to 200 - 20 kilobits/sec teleoperator now gets 100 times more advertisement money than before per 20 - 2 mbits/sec transmission. At some point totally commercially paid internet connection without subscription fee becomes profitable and not anymore bring financial losses to teleoperator. If data rates are as slow as 20 kbits/sec data compression is needed. Where people in poor countries need megabit- class net connection anyway? There are efficient data compression methods that have names like AFOR, VSE encoding (vector of splits encoding), PFOR Delta compression, k-Gamma compression, Group Variaple Byte (GVB), Morphing Match Chain (MMC), Simple 9 / Simple 16, SIMD-BP128, 2D hash table, Finite State Entropy (FSE) encoding etc. In netpage endlesscompression.com are some more exotic compression schemes. Video and and image compression methods that are better than before are invented almost every day. For very slow data rate video compression must be maximum scalability, and fractal compression like TMMI-TRUDEF is best if its scalability is in maximum. There is also image compression MyPhotoZip with 1500 to 1 compression ratio. Screen view can be compressed using ScreenPressor “screensaver”, PDF documents using pdfCompress, and text using IDBE (Intelligent Dictionary Based Encoding) and its versions. For character text there are Unicode alternatives using 8 bit a-law or mu-law logarithmic companding, 16 bit floating point values, or Simple 9 or Simple 16 mathematical compression. For standard Unicode text there is FOX compression. If instead of Unicode, 16 bit floating point etc. is used, character set expands to millions, and then dictionary based encoding like IDBE can compress zillions of characters, complete or partial words, complete sentances etc. to dictionary and present them in 16 bits to large mass of text, if receiving device has dictionary space large enough. And for search engine use: search results concerning pdf- files etc. can be limited to cached results like Google when it shows “cached” results as option to full search results, instead of full internet access with billions of netpages cost free net can be restricted to limited amount of files on the net so server and search engine usage is minimum, etc. So almost same level of information can be transmitted if instead of megabits/sec, rate is some dozens 7 hundreads kilobits/sec. Teleoperator get however now about a hundread time more advertisement money per data transmisson rate. When in poor countries there are state-owned teloperators that are owned or partially owned by governments of rich countries, and very rich countries, there exists no more reason why total cost free internet in development countries cannot be true.

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Hello!

This is an exciting thread for sure!

Instead of having lots of different discussions in this one thread, go to the top post (or the post most relevant to your idea) and then press the ‘Reply as linked topic’ button.

This means each thread will be specific to a topic so we won’t be speaking over eachother :smile:

Who has experience with this? I’m currently proposing the idea to the BitNation Team and would love to run with this once it’s accepted.

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It is relatively easy to create a marketing campaign that promises to deliver X% of some value into an aid project.

It is relatively hard to actually deliver that value in a way that counts as aid. It is so relatively hard that I propose it is absolutely hard. We’re talking 99% hard.

You have to search a long way to find an aid project that actually delivered, and often the circumstances are accidental/deceptive. Eg, mPesa. If you actually look at the aid delivered on the ground, the results are mindbogglingly bad.

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If someone can spread this idea of state owned / partially state owned teleoperators delivering no line cost- internet in developing countries (TeliaSonera, Orange in France, Telenor with its VimpelCom/Grameenphone, Chinese and Middle East countries state owned teleoperators) that would be good. “Zeronet” has perhaps closed Virtual File System etc., limited internet connection with Wikipedia, GNUhealth, Ekopedia ym, openculture.com etc., access only for public domain/ freeware material (online translator like Google translate that is used on texting videofiles etc, or voice translation for people who can`t read). When server/ search engine requirementsts are small because of limited netpages access, and data rates are drastically slower per ciustomer (about 100 times slower than normal 3G/4G, but advertisements money generated per customer remain same for teleoperator, teleoperator gets 100 times more advertisement money for same data rate as for one paying customer. Large number of state owned teleoperators operate at developing countries, and if the financial loss of free net connection can be compensated partially or fully, only political decision (the people who are living in these rich countries and “own” these state owned teleoperators) is needed to start zeronet at developing countries. For example in Afghanistan one teleoperator is owned by TeliaSonera, Monaco telecom (state owned) and Aga Khan charity fund (majority stake). If charity fund owns teleoperator that is a good starting point for zeronet. If someone can do something about this zeronet/ free internet for development countries matter, if only telling people about this possibility of zeronet, it would be good.

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